{"id":387,"date":"2010-04-17T22:33:48","date_gmt":"2010-04-17T21:33:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wydawnictwopodziemne.rohnka5.atthost24.pl\/?p=387"},"modified":"2012-04-14T19:20:43","modified_gmt":"2012-04-14T18:20:43","slug":"ten-sam-nacjonalizm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/staging.wydawnictwopodziemne.com\/en\/2010\/04\/17\/ten-sam-nacjonalizm\/","title":{"rendered":"Same old nationalism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- \t\t@page { size: 21cm 29.7cm; margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Jeff Nyquist is not your typical American journalist.  He knows Golitsyn, he\u2019s alert to the dangers of a communist plot on a global scale, and to cap it all, he firmly believes that Eastern European revolutions of 1989-1991 were part of a long term strategy, conceived long ago under Khrushchev and Mao.  Thanks to such views, Nyquist\u2019s writing appears clear, uncompromising, original and fascinating to the point where it must be rewarding to engage him in a debate on the complexities of the modern world.  And bearing in mind the transformation, which has recently occurred in his political thinking, there is indeed a lot to quarrel about.<!--more--><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">In recent times, Nyquist seems to have accepted almost as irrefutable dogma, that Saakashvili in Georgia and Yushchenko in Ukraine are a source of hope for liberation of the Eastern part of Europe; that the appearance of the two heroes on the political stage proves the soviet long term strategy is in tatters and, who knows, perhaps in time will prove to be ephemeral.  This new stance, brimming with hope, has become a kind of counterbalance to Nyquist\u2019s personal pessimism regarding both American and global political developments.  The surprising conclusion of his recent divagations seems to be that the two leaders freed from bolshevik yoke somehow compensate the American decline.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">Is this really so surprising?  After the initial confusion it\u2019s time for reflection.  Is the change in Nyquist\u2019s views so radical?  Let\u2019s look at the first paragraph of one of his recent articles, <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"><em>The Question of Discernment<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">, where Nyquist states among others:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.27cm; margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><em>The former Warsaw Pact countries have joined NATO, and so have three former Soviet republics.  If Moscow doesn\u2019t like a political outcome in Eastern Europe, Russian tanks can no longer be called upon to intervene.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">Is this the first breach in the structure of soviet long term strategy?  Not necessarily.  Author suggests something rather more serious.  He says clearly \u201c&#8230;joined NATO.\u201d  Who did?  \u201cCountries\u201d!&#8230;  What \u201ccountries\u201d?  \u201cOf the <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"><em>former <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">Warsaw Pact.\u201d  Nyquist says it all without a shadow of irony, with one and only intention of communicating an obvious fact.  The first consequence of the fall of soviet empire (real or fictional?) was the emergence on the international scene of new \u201cstates\u201d (I venture to guess that these are \u201csovereign states\u201d).  Then these \u201cstates\u201d freely left the Warsaw Pact only to \u201cjoin NATO\u201d.  In other words, they have switched alliances.  And what has Moscow to say about that?  Moscow appears to be powerless.  They cannot even send in the tanks&#8230;  This helplessness has two reasons: firstly, those \u201cstates\u201d are no longer under Moscow\u2019s thumb (they are brotherly no more); and secondly, the tanks appear to have switched allegiance too, they are now Russian!<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Perhaps we ought to ask Jeff Nyquist how he understands the \u201clong term soviet strategy\u201d, \u201cdisintegration of soviet empire\u201d, \u201cfall of communism\u201d?  We have to ask him because it seems now that he interprets these provocative and deceiving phrases more or less literally.  It now appears that he has accepted the \u201cstructural changes\u201d in soviet bloc as real, or to use a more concrete language, polish people\u2019s republic has become Poland, people\u2019s hungary \u2013 free Hungary, even the ukrainian soviet socialist republic has become the Free Ukraine.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">Let\u2019s stop for a moment.  Let\u2019s remind ourselves of the words of the leading bolsheviks in time of perestroika; people who, as Nyquist rightly points out somewhere, often speak to us quite openly.  Let\u2019s listen to the pronouncements of one Boris Yeltsin on the 28<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">th<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/sup><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"> Congress of CPSU in July 1990:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.27cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><em>The Party apparatus will decide on a fundamental restructuring of the Party. In a democratic state, a changeover to a multiparty system is inevitable. Various political parties are gradually being formed in our country.  At the same time, a fundamental renewal of the CPSU in inevitable.  First. It is necessary to organisationally codify all the platforms that exist in the CPSU and to give every Communist time for political self-determination.  I am sure that most rank-and-file Communists link the Party&#8217;s future with the democratic wing. Second.  To change the name of the Party.  It should be a party of democratic socialism.  The Party should divest itself of all state functions.  A parliamentary-type Party will emerge.  Only this type of Party&#8230; will be able to be a leading Party and to win elections for one or another of its fractions.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Yeltsin\u2019s words were backed up by the glorious leader of the perestroika, Gorbachev, who in precise terms described the question of \u201cstructural changes\u201d:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.27cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><em>Above all, [we confirm] the determination of the CPSU to&#8230; enhance its vanguard role in society and to make an even greater contribution to achieving the goals of our revolutionary restructuring.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.27cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"><em>Allow me to formulate three conditions necessary for the Party to fully demonstrate its viability and actually attain its vanguard potential. <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"><em>We must do everything to firmly establish in the CPSU the power of the Party masses based on all-encompassing democracy, comradeship, openness, glasnost and criticism.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"><em> [\u2026] <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"><em>The Central Committee and I as General Secretary will do all we can to help the Republic Communist Parties gain their new independent status as soon as possible, a status that will lead not to a fragmentation of Communists and nations but to a new international unity of the CPSU on a common ideological basis.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">On the face of it, confessions of bolshevik classics of perestroika do not leave much room for interpretation or to wishful thinking.  In practice, however, it is not necessarily so.  Nyquist without a doubt knows the above quotations, but the bolshevik credo formulated during the last party congress before the \u201cdisintegration\u201d of the soviet union, does not stop him from proposing most astonishing theses: that \u201cindependent Ukraine\u201d is surrounded by a chain of hostile \u201cRussian\u201d forces (by the way, 500 km long border with \u201cPoland\u201d could hardly be described as \u201ca small and vulnerable corridor\u201d); that \u201cRussia\u201d has \u201chigh-placed agents in the Ukrainian security system\u201d; or that Yushchenko (no less than a president of \u201cfree Ukraine\u201d, according to Nyquist) was brave in talking about the Great Famine in the Ukraine in 1930s.  Although he does not \u201cthink the Orange Revolution secured genuine independence for Ukraine\u201d (it\u2019s all very confusing sometimes), Nyquist maintains that there are real political forces pressing for such independence.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Why is it so?  Why, despite his clear knowledge of the aims of perestroika and the long term strategy, does Nyquist prefer to listen to fairy tales from inebriated Yeltsin about \u201ca general who was like the generals I read about in books when I was young\u201d?  There seems to be one possible answer \u2013 it is nationalism.  The same old nationalism, which in open conflict with bolshevism led serious politicians, like Pi\u0142sudski or Churchill to the abyss; which assisted bolsheviks in year 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1922, 1939, 1941 or 1945 and still remains one of the motors of communist policy both on the global scale and in localised conflicts.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Nyquist is a proud nationalist.  He spoke about it in one of his recent comments with his usual lucidity:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 1.27cm; margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><em>I am told that nationalism and anti-Communism are inconsistent, that I am not really an anti-Communist, is highly offensive to me personally. Also, I am an American. The U.S. is my nation, and without my nation I am either dead or in exile. If I am not for my nation, what am I? Here is my nationalism, mock it or degrade it as you will.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Isn\u2019t he most obviously right?  What can be wrong with national identity, with feeling of unity with one\u2019s compatriots, with pride in their achievements?  How many of us are free from such <\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">\u201cinstincts\u201d?  Myself, I sometimes support sportsmen with White Eagle on their shirts, regardless of the fact that they represent a state totally alien to me.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">The essence of the problem is as always hidden in the detail.  There is a difference between patriotic pride and national egoism; between natural bonds with our compatriots and a belief that <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">the cause of one&#8217;s own nation should take precedence over the individual interest or the benefits of other nations<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">; in short, between patriotism and nationalistic blindness.  As a self-confessed nationalist, and at the same time an anticommunist, Jeff Nyquist is uniquely placed to discuss this problem.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">Perhaps he would deign to look at other crucial questions.  What bearing did American national egoism have on the fate of nations and the world in the 20<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><sup><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">th<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/sup><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\"> Century?  Did standing by American interests have any impact on the fortunes of Hungarian fighters in 1956; Cuban counterrevolutionaries in the Bay of Pigs; Vietnamese anticommunists in 1975; or the faithful American allies from the valiant nation of the Hmong, who 2010 AD are still hiding in the Laotian jungle?  Is it not nationalism, which is responsible for the treatment of apparatchiks such as Yushchenko and Saakashvili, as non-bolsheviks, indeed, as patriots, forgetting that in the last 90 years, the \u201cstates\u201d they represent were not victims of Russian imperialism but well oiled parts of a bolshevik political machinery; forgetting that the sovietised population of these countries, just as in Poland or Czech Republic, or Bulgaria, neither has a chance, nor is it inclined to build an open society?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">We would need to consider these questions carefully, before we can mull over the chances of anticommunism locked within hopelessly contradictory national egoisms.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">During a long exchange of views regarding some aspects of nationalism and anticommunism, conducted on our website, Jeff Nyquist felt insulted by some of the arguments used, he saw them as \u201c<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">highly offensive to <\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span lang=\"en-GB\">him personally\u201d.  I like his openness and his plain speaking because there is nothing worse than resentment hidden behind polite words.  Jeff wrote clearly what he did not like.  Thanks to that I can reassure him that no one in The Underground has ever questioned his anticommunist credentials.  I can also declare that we are not in the habit of getting into debates with people who do not deserve our respect.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-right: -0.04cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;\" lang=\"en-GB\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Verdana;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Open political discussions are often emotional.  Sometimes, mutual irritation causes participants not to listen to arguments with attention they deserve.  These uncomfortable aspects of taking part in debate belong to the very nature of discussion and are difficult to avoid.  Nevertheless, the importance of a serious dialogue, and it was a serious exchange of views with Jeff Nyquist, ought to outweigh all discomforts.  On that basis, but also based on my good knowledge of both main contributors to the debate, I am convinced that no side effects will divert our attention from the heart of the matter nor will prevent us from reaching interesting conclusions.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeff Nyquist is not your typical American journalist. He knows Golitsyn, he\u2019s alert to the dangers of a communist plot on a global scale, and to cap it all, he firmly believes that Eastern European revolutions of 1989-1991 were part of a long term strategy, conceived long ago under Khrushchev and Mao. 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